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WHAT CHILDREN SAY

ABOUT THEIR PAST LIVES

WHEN YOUR OWN KIDS SAY

STRANGE THINGS

You have all had it happen at one time or another.

Your child was saying strange things or talking

with someone who wasn't there.

Maybe talking with another child of long ago who

you don't see  but your child evidently does.

YOUR CHILD COMMENTS ABOUT

A DIFFERENT PLACE

AND A DIFFERENT TIME

Maybe a comment about what they were, or what

they did, somewhere else, at a different time.

OUR RELIGIOUS TRAINING BLINDS US

TO SUCH A REALITY

We are so conditioned by our religious training that we

immediately "correct" the child to make sure that they

do not regard their little fantasies as anything real.

WE INTERFERE WITH WHAT IS NATURAL

THROUGH OUR TRAINED IGNORANCE

Have we taken away their family and friends,

the same way ours were taken away ?

YOU MUST BE COMFORTABLE

WITH THE SOURCE OF THIS INFORMATION

YOU MUST CONSIDER IT CREDIBLE

Whenever we get into talking about strange things,

I feel it important to qualify what I say by providing

the source of the material is credible or not.

The other night at the dinner we

were discussing UFO’s

and how it is difficult to tell someone

about spotting a UFO.

MOST PEOPLE EITHER HAVE

NO EXPERIENCE WITH THIS

OR ARE AFRAID OF RIDICULE IN

SHARING THEIR EXPERIENCE

People just have a difficult time being

able to relate to anything

like this because for the most part they

have heard many stories

but never observed anything themselves.

But the fact is you know what you saw,

regardless of whether

you can tell anyone or not.

OUR SOURCES OF INFORMATION

MUST BE CREDIBLE

Strange things that we have not seen,

 but have been asked

to consider, can really only be judged

by the credibility of the

people telling us, and that is why I want

to start this off by

providing to you the credentials

of the people who

I will be referring to.

PROFESSOR JIM TUCKER

Prof. Jim Tucker

University of Virginia Health System

Division of Personality Studies

Assistant Professor,

Division of Personality Studies and

Medical Director

Division of Child and Family Psychiatry

 Professional Activities

•American Psychiatric Association

•American Academy of Child and

Adolescent Psychiatry

•American Medical Association

•Society for Scientific Exploration

DO YOU FEEL DR. TUCKER HAS

ACCEPTABLE CREDENTIALS?

The reason I find him of interest is because:

His book "Life Before Life:

A Scientific Investigation of

Children's Memories of Previous Lives"

(St. Martin's Press, 2005)

attempts to verify statements from children who

claim to have had past-life experiences.

HE FOCUSES ON CHILDREN WITH

PAST LIFE EXPERIENCES

OUR SECOND SOURCE

Another doctor who  began this work

years before

Dr. Tucker  at the University of Virginia

and his name is 

Dr Ian Stevenson.

 The Late:Dr Ian Stevenson

University of Virginia Health System

Department of Psychiatric Medicine

 •2002 -: Research Professor of Psychiatry

•1967-2001 : Carlson Professor of Psychiatry,

Department of Psychiatric Medicine,

University of Virginia, Charlottesville, Virginia

•1967-2001: Director, Division of Personality Studies,

Department of Psychiatric Medicine,

University of Virginia, Charlottesville, Virginia 

•1957 - 1967: Psychiatrist in Chief,

University of Virginia Hospital,

Charlottesville, Virginia

•1952 - 1957: Associate Professor of Psychiatry,

Louisiana State University School of Medicine,

New Orleans, Louisiana

Dr Stevensons work involved children

who claimed to

remember previous lives,

near-death experiences,

apparitions (death-bed visions),

mind-brain problem,

survival of human personality after death.

Both Dr Tucker and the late

Dr Stevenson have the

credentials that would give them

credibility in approaching

this particular subject and provide us with ample

reason to look at their work seriously.

THEIR BOOKS

Both Dr Tucker and Dr Stevenson

have written books.

Dr Jim Tuckers book is called Life Before Life

•Life Before Life:

A Scientific Investigation of Children's

Memories of Previous Lives,

which is a review of research

with children who report memories of previous

lives written for the general public. 

Dr. Ian Stevensons book is called

A World In A Grain Of Sand

•A World in a Grain of Sand:

The Clairvoyance of Stefan Ossowiecki . 

This book presents the story of a

gifted psychic who

demonstrated remarkable abilities

under controlled

experimental conditions.

INITIAL COMMENTS

BY DR. JIM TUCKER

 Dr Tucker explained his feelings about life and

what led him into considering Life before Life

especially as it related to the statements of children.

I think when I started looking at things,

I became open to the possibility that we're more

than just our physical bodies, that there is more to

the world than just the physical universe.

That's basically why I'm doing the work.

Because I'm open to it, I want to see what

I can learn about it.

WE SHOULD NOT DISCOUNT

WHAT A CHILD SAYS

He feels that we should pay close

attention to anything

a child says that we may feel is strange

because it can

very likely indicate an experience

in a previous life.

"The most obvious sign is when the child starts

talking about it.

The child will say, "I used to be big, and I'd do such

and such thing," or sometimes they'll say,

"In my last life I ..."

I DROVE A BIG TRUCK

There is one case here in Charlottesville --

The only thing the child ever said to

the mom about it was --

one day they were driving down the road,

and the little boy says,

"In my last life I drove a big truck."

Of course, that was completely unverifiable.

But you know, you get statements like that,

and then in the cases that are useful to investigate,

you get a lot of specific details.

It’s very interesting when you consider this subject

and consider people like Dr Tucker who spends so

much time with it, and what they say about children.

"Many of them, three-quarters of them,

will talk about the way that they died.

And usually what they say will focus on things that

happened near the end of the previous life --

not exclusively, but they will usually talk about

 people they knew at the end.

So if they are describing a life as an adult,

they will be

much more likely to talk about

a spouse or children

than about parents and that sort of thing. "

How Can We Consider

Such Things As This ?

Can We Consider The  Fantasies

Of A Child  As Being Real ?

When we consider this type of phenomena ,

we should also consider the scripture

that speaks of the child.

Jesus

Matthew 18: 2.  And Jesus called a little child to him,

and set him in the midst of them, 

And said, unless you be  converted,

and become as little children,

You shall not enter the kingdom of heaven

There is something very interesting when

you consider Jesus statement.

CAN YOU ACCEPT

THE STRANGE AS BEING NORMAL?

AS A CHILD DOES?

Unless you just accept the strange as being normal,

unless you are not influenced in your thinking by

others who will try to teach you their ways,

unless you totally open yourself up and

accept these things, you will never experience them.

WE FRUSTRATE THE CHILD WITH OUR

LACK OF UNDERSTANDING

If a child tells us of such things we tend to

try to talk him or her out of it.

You're just imagining, or you had a bad dream.

OUR RELIGIOUS TRAINING WILL NOT

 ALLOW US TO ACCEPT REALITY

 We never can come to grips with the reality of this.

JIMMY. STOP SPINNING, YOU'LL GET DIZZY !

It’s the same thing as when we see a child spinning,

we try to stop them , not realizing that the very

spinning is their closeness to God.

THE WHIRLING DERVISH

The whirling dervish spin for hours upon hours

which takes them into the deepest meditation

and communion with God.

But when we see a child spinning we stop them.

Because we simply do not understand.

BACK TO DR. TUCKER

He was asked a question about children fantasizing .

Making up things, and his answer was as follows.

"If you have got one where the children have made

numerous statements about another life that is quite

some distance away, including proper names and

everything else, and it all checks out, then unless

you are going to say,

"It's all one heck of a coincidence,"

you can't really just blame all of that on fantasy. "

Dr Tucker then went on to describe one particularly

interesting and significant case.

Kum Kum Verma The Little Girl

"One that stands out is a little girl in India

 named Kum Kum Verma --

Dr. Stevenson investigated her case.

She started talking (about a past life) when she

was 3 years old, which is usually the age when

people begin to speak about past-life memories. "

One of her aunts took notes on her statements

before anyone tried to investigate.

THE DETAILS OF WHAT SHE SAID

WERE WRITTEN DOWN

They include things like her son's name,

the fact that he worked with a hammer,

the grandson's name,

the town where his father in that previous life lived,

the fact that there was a pond at her house,

that she kept an iron safe at her house,

that she had a sword hanging near the cot

where she slept

and even that she had a pet snake

that she fed milk to.

So we are talking about ridiculously

specific detail .

Dr. Tucker was then asked if any of the details

were checked out.

He said.

Yes. It turned out that there was someone who

lived in the section of the city that she had described,

somebody whose life matched all of those details.

And this was a case where the families had no contact

before the case was investigated, because the father

was a well-to-do landowner, and he apparently was

not happy that the little girl was remembering

the life of the blacksmith's wife.

Dr. Tucker was asked if the children he has worked

with or studied seemed to have anything in common

with one another, and he said

"yes, that 70% of them will report dying

violently or suddenly. 

So that certainly seems to be a key factor. "

WHERE DOES THIS

ALL COME TOGETHER?

We have talked about people returning from the dead,

parallel universes, the concept that we all have

twins in parallel universes etc.

It was therefore interesting to get Dr. Jim Tuckers

opinion about these things based on his studies

with children who claim to have lived before this life.

MEMORIES CAN CARRY FROM

ONE LIFE TO THE NEXT

"What I say in the book is that after reviewing

many of the strongest cases we have,

the best explanation for them is that memories

and emotions at times seem to be able to carry

from one life to the next.

THE R WORD, REINCARNATION

So I think the evidence is there

to support [reincarnation].

Now, if you are asking, Is it part of my

personal belief system?

Not particularly.

I'm not a Buddhist or Hindu or

anything like that.

HE IS SIMPLY OPEN TO THE POSSIBILITY

ARE YOU?

I'm open to the possibility, obviously,

or I wouldn't be spending time on this research.

But I'm not a zealot as far as pushing some

sort of religious doctrine"

DR. TUCKER'S COMMENT

ON CONSCIOUSNESS

CONSCIOUSNESS IS NOT

IN THE HEAD

Dr Tucker makes the following comment.

Consciousness is not just a by-product of a

physical brain but is actually a separate entity in

the universe that has a big impact on things

in the universe.

WHAT WE THINK

WHAT WE DREAM

WHAT WE FEEL

IS SEPARATE FROM OUR PHYSICAL BRAIN

And there are people looking at the idea of how,

in a quantum way, consciousness

can affect the physical brain.

If you are open to that possibility, if you are truly

going to consider the fact that

consciousness is that

separate entity in the universe,

then you have to consider the possibility

that consciousness

is not dependent on just being a

by-product of a functioning brain.

 It's going to continue after the brain dies.

A HEAVY TRUTH

CONSCIOUSNESS CONTINUES

AFTER THE BRAIN DIES

IT'S THE SAME AS

WHEN YOU GO TO SLEEP

Dr. Tucker suggests that consciousness

continues after the brain dies.

In the same way that consciousness continues

after the brain goes to sleep.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

THE BRAIN AND

THE PHOTON THAT OPERATES IT

The brain is the physical part.

Consciousness is the photon part.

Consciousness is the invisible.

RELIGION IS OBSESSED WITH THE PHYSICAL

Religion has never been able to come to grips with

that premise, and has focused itself on the physical

body and what happens to it after it dies.

THEY CANNOT DEAL WITH

THE NON EXISTENCE OF THE BODY

AFTER IT DIES

The fact that the body decays after it dies and

should no longer be a subject of interest eludes them.

It is the invisible.

The consciousness that survives life after life

and seeks body after body to occupy.

PROFESSOR JIM TUCKER

IS SKEPTICAL BUT

HE IS OPEN TO POSSIBILITIES

I tend to be a fairly skeptical person.

Even though I am spending a lot of time with

these cases, I don't go to a case assuming that

it's a case of reincarnation.

It's sort of my natural default to see whether

it can be explained through normal means.

But to be fair and open-minded,

if you look at some of the strongest cases,

I think you need to be open to the

possibility that

there may be more going on in life

than we know about. 

NOW LET US CONSIDER THE WORK

OF THE LATE

DR. IAN STEVENSON

Ian Stevenson presented an explanation as to

why references to past lives are more prevalent

in some parts of the world and not so in others.

IN THIS COUNTRY THERE IS NOT MUCH

DISCUSSION OF THIS SUBJECT

In the United States one does not

hear much about the subject.

The first striking thing is that

reincarnation is reported

much more frequently in cultures

that believe in reincarnation.

Stevenson insists that this is because where

they believe in reincarnation

they are more likely to report it.

OUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS CAUSE

US TO SUPPRESS

A CHILD'S MEMORIES

Where they don’t believe, they are less likely to

recognize a child’s stories for "what they are",

or will suppress the child’s "memories".

RELIGION HAS BEEN THE SUPPRESSOR

That is the reason that we have an obsession

with  religion instead of God.

We have religion.

Religion  is groups of people formulating

their own ideas.

Religion will do whatever it has to in order to suppress

anything they do not agree with.

A RELIGIOUS HOME WILL SUPPRESS

A CHILDS REALITY

If there is a child living in a home with

a family from

a fundamentalist religious group

and that child begins to talk about

past life experiences, it will

be strongly suppressed.

And so we whisper about these things

that scientists,

and doctors, also whisper about.

WE DENY THE REALITY SO WE DO

NOT UPSET OTHERS

We don’t want to dare tell the truth for fear of

upsetting our family, and friends,

who are so tightly controlled by religion.

WE HAVE FOLLOWED RELIGION

AND MISSED GOD

We totally miss God and the reality of life.

And so it is up to each of us to either hold on

to religion and continue, singing, praying,

waiting and missing.

WILL WE ABANDON THE TEACHINGS

OF THE DARK AGES?

Abandon the concepts of the dark ages,

and be open to the reality of life which is being

shown to us by so many prestigious scientists

even from places of learning such as

 Virginia University.

BIRTHMARKS, WHERE ARE THEY FROM ?

When you look at your own body and see birth marks

or marks of one kind or another , it is well to look at

what Ian Stevenson has found in his work.

REINCARNATION AND PHYSICAL BIRTHMARKS

Another very convincing proof of reincarnation

Dr. Stevenson has researched ,has to do

with physical birthmarks.

Some of the children who have memories

of a past life

have strange birthmarks or physical deformities,

which seem to come from the way the person

died in the previous life.

SEARCHING AUTOPSY REPORTS

 In a few cases Dr. Stevenson has been able to look

up the autopsy records of the previous person,

and match up the photographs showing

how they died, with the child's birthmarks.

A GUN SHOT WOUND TO THE CHEST

A child remembered being shot and killed in a

previous life, and remembered enough details

that Dr. Stevenson could track down the

autopsy records for the past-life person.

The autopsy records showed where the bullet

entered and exited--and the child had little round

birthmarks matching the autopsy.

CAN WE BELIEVE SUCH THINGS ?

The only way we are going to be able to allow this

to excite, and instill our lives with hope and

understanding of life and the future of life

is to accept it.

YOUR SKEPTICISM COMES FROM

YOUR RELIGIOUS TRAINING

You can be a skeptic about something

like this but you

will be a skeptic only because of the training you

have had from religion.

A CHILD IS NOT A SKEPTIC

 A child just  tells us about what they know.

 And unless you come as a child you will

not be able to take part in all of the excitement

of life and what God has given to us all.

OUR SOURCES FROM THE

UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA

HAVE CREDIBLE CREDENTIALS

Dr Tucker and Dr Stevenson have

impeccable credentials

and they are not trying to make a point.

And the only reason in the world that we may

doubt them is because of religion which is the

troublemaker all over the earth.

ON THE FOLLOWING INCIDENT

YOU EITHER ACCEPT THE INFORMATION

FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA

OR YOU ACCEPT THE INFORMATION

FROM YOUR PASTOR

Either you accept Ian Stevensons credentials at the

University of Virginia, or you don’t.

That is up to you, but  he was a very respected

scientist from the University of Virginia

THE SHOTGUN BLAST

Dr. Stevenson tells us of this investigation.

BOTTOM LEFT:

BIRTHMARK OF CHILD

WITH PAST LIFE MEMORY

BOTTOM RIGHT:

AUTOPSY OF PERSON

HE REMEMBERED BEING

SHOWING POINT OF ENTRY OF

KILLING SHOT GUN BLAST

The Birthmark                                  The Autopsy

A boy who had past-life memories had a splotchy

birthmark on his chest that looked like scars.

When he gave the name of the past-life person,

Dr. Stevenson tracked down the name,

found the autopsy report, and saw

that the previous-life

person had been killed by a

shotgun blast to the chest.

The pattern of the holes in the autopsy looked

very much like the boy's birthmarks.

THE INVESTIGATION OF

THE BOYS PREVIOUS LIFE CLAIM

What happened here is the boy knew his

name in a previous life.

Dr Stevenson looked up the name

and found the autopsy,

and the gunshot wound, that killed the man matched

the birthmark of the boy.

THE CHILDS STATEMENTS MUST BE DOCUMENTED

The way Dr Stevenson worked with these situations

is in each case of children’s past life memory,

Dr. Stevenson methodically documented

the child's statements.

He identified the deceased person

the child remembered being,

and verified the facts of the deceased person's

life that matched the child's memory.

He even matched birthmarks and birth defects,

to wounds and scars on the deceased,

verified by medical records.

NORMAL EXPLANATIONS WERE RULED OUT

 His strict methods systematically ruled

 out all possible

"normal" explanations for the child’s memories.

THIS IS DOCUMENTATION

OF A STRANGE REALITY

FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA

What  has been found has been documented

and is true,

which means that indeed we have other lives,

and yes there are parallel universes,

and yes we have twins,

and if we ever get the courage to reject religion

we will find God, and be able to take part in all of

these neat things, and reconnect with our lives,

and the lives, of those we have physically

known and loved.

WHAT DID JESUS BELIEVE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT?

When we consider these things about past lives,

many people are afraid to listen because

of their Christian roots.

But that is nonsense and I will show you why.

JESUS AND THE BLIND MAN

WHO HAD LIVED BEFORE

John 9 1. 

And as Jesus passed by,

he saw a man who was blind from his birth.

Here the Bible says that the man was born blind.

And his disciples asked him, saying,

Master, who did sin, this man,

or his parents, that he was born blind?

    Jesus answered, Neither has this man sinned,

    nor his parents:

  but that the works of God should be displayed  in him.

JESUS DID NOT QUESTION WHETHER A PERSON

COULD SIN BEFORE THEY WERE BORN

Jesus didn't stop and say what are you talking about.

How could someone sin before they are born.

DR. STEVENSON TRACKED DOWN THOSE

WHO CLAIMED PAST LIFE INJURIES

You saw Ian Stevenson tracking down people who

were connected to those who claimed injuries in

past lives and he found injuries that

matched birthmarks.

HERE IN THE BIBLE, THE DISCIPLES OF JESUS

ASK ABOUT THE VERY SAME THING

IN THE CASE ABOVE THE CHILD HAD

A BIRTHMARK FROM SOMETHING THAT

HAPPENED IN A PAST LIFE

IN THIS BIBLE STORY, THE DISCIPLES ASK

JESUS IF THE MANS

BLINDNESS WAS FROM A PAST LIFE INCIDENT.

A PHYSICAL MARK BECAUSE

OF A PAST LIFE INCIDENT

PHYSICAL BLINDNESS BECAUSE

OF A PAST LIFE INCIDENT

Here you see an understanding of that by the disciples

who ask Jesus what happened in a past life

that caused this person to be born blind.

JESUS DID NOT DISPUTE THE POSSIBILITY

OF A PAST LIFE INCIDENT

He just said no that was not the cause for this person.

LISTEN TO YOUR CHILDREN

If what they say sounds strange, listen closely.

YOU MAY HEAR OF THAT WONDERFUL PLACE

YOU PRAY ABOUT ALL THE TIME

They may be bringing you wonderful news

from a different place.

Don't discourage them.

Just allow them to speak of such things and know

that when you can eliminate the skepticism that

they do not have, you too will remember,

and see, and again be with those who

have left this physical realm.

Come as a child.

YOU MAY ALSO WISH TO COMMUNICATE

WITH PROFESSOR JIM TUCKER

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