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      NARCISSUS AND ECHO

THE WOMAN

 THE HOMOSEXUAL

 THE CHURCH

Let's take what I think you will find to be a very interesting look

at Greek Mythology as we consider

the story of Narcissus and Echo.

The story gives us a very good insight about mythology,

and how the strange stories were written in deep

symbolic terms to relate natural conditions of the earth,

cosmos, and living beings.

NARCISSUS

 The story is about Narcissus who was

so enamored by himself

that the Gods finally had to send him to Mt Helicon

where he would be alone and have time to ponder

the error of his ways.

Women were chasing after him because

he was so good looking,

but he absolutely refused all of them saying that he

would never take a woman unless

she was as beautiful as he.

ECHO

There was a girl named Echo and

she was a blabber mouth .

The gods were so tired of her chatting

away all of the time  

that they changed her to where she could only  

repeat things other people said.

She was desperately in love with Narcissus  

but he wanted nothing to do with her.

So when Narcissus went off to Mt Helicon,

Echo followed him there.

Echo would hide in the woods  

so that Narcissus could not see her.

 He just was constantly staring at his

own reflection in the water.

Whenever Narcissus would yell out for someone

to help him get out of the woods,

 Echo would reply,

the woods the woods.

Finally Echo ran to him and he pushed her away.

He said she was no different then all of the other girls

who chased after him and kept saying

I love You , I love you.

Echo replied

I Love you, I love you.

She went back to the woods and Narcissus just  

continued to stare at his reflection in the water.

Narcissus began to waste away .

He grew very weak and knew he was dying.

Just before he died, he yelled out

Farewell Farewell.

 Echo replied from the woods

Farewell Farewell.

Finally after a long time, the Gods sent

messengers to find Narcissus.

They went to the spot where they knew

he had been constantly

staring at himself,

but instead of finding him

they found a lone flower.

The Narcissus became the result of the

person Narcissus constantly look at himself.

THE MORAL OF THE STORY

The beautiful point of the story is that when one separates

from the physical realm and spends time looking within oneself,

the obsession with physical life gives way to a oneness with nature.

That which is man made,

becomes that which is God made.

AND WHAT HAPPENED TO ECHO ?

Echo became lost in the woods

and she thus becomes one

who will answer whoever calls out to her

in those desolate places.

Try it yourself.

She will answer you.

But there is much more to the story .

THE DAFFODIL NARCISSUS

AND ECHO

It is a very complex story about the nature of life.

DEGRADING THE FEMALE

The story's roots go deep into what

has become a world wide  

tradition of  holding 

the female at a lower social 

 and religious level then the male.

It even finds its way into the current problem of  

religious people and their bizarre activities in the sexual 

 abuse of children, particularly young males.

AVOID THE FEMALE

AT ALL COSTS

The need on the part of so much of the

religious community in  

many religions to avoid females has its roots in 

Narcissus and the very ancient

subject of homosexuality.

Narcissus is also related to that

phenomena which  

was very prevalent in ancient

Greece and Rome.

 What is interesting,

is to see how Narcissus and the 

anti female attitude, as well as the

Narcissus connection  

is carried  deeply into religion and

is found there to this present day.

CHRISTIANITY AND THE FLOWER

What is so interesting is how the church has adopted 

the Narcissus in so many of its functions connected 

with life and resurrection.

 There is more to this then just the fact

that it is a pretty flower.

It is connected with the fact that religion not only  

considers the female to be physically weaker

which is honest ,  

but intellectually and spiritually weaker

which is not honest.

THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

DID NOT INCLUDE WOMEN

Why is it that the Declaration of Independence

said all men  

are created equal at a time when women

were not allowed to vote?

 The reason is that the independence only applied to men.

The daffodil (which is the Narcissus)

has been adopted by  

both the American Cancer Society, &

the Madame Curie Society,  

for whom it symbolizes simultaneously

hope & disease.

The Greeks today call it

N. tazetta Dakrakia,

"Little Tear Drops,"

as this flower's association with 

grief & death is both exceedingly ancient, & modern.

In this particular case there is the sadness surrounding  

the story of Narcissus, and the eventual pining away  

type of death, as well as the hope that Narcissus 

 never relinquished until the end.

MALE AND FEMALE

IN CIVILIZATION

There is the other part of this story which is much larger

as we look at the male female structures in society

both civilized and uncivilized.

THE FOUNDATION OF RELIGIOUS TRADITION

Narcissus is fundamentally impotent or sexless, 

though erotically appealing to goddesses or nymphs,

& even to the more masculine gods.

We are reminded that Cybele's boy companion Attis,

born of an almond tree, was like Narcissus sexually incapable,

indeed  he was literally unmanned.

 The frustration of Attis with his own sexuality  

is graphically presented in the part of the story

where he takes a sharp stone and castrates himself.

 He cuts off his genitals and then utters these words.

"Ah, perish the parts that were my ruin."

[Ovid, Fasti 4.240]

SEXLESS MALES

Such sexless males seemed to originate in a very early 

level of myth when the Mother Goddess, being Absolute,

had no actual consort, at a time when the male principle

was at most a companion, son, or a priest

who had unsexed himself.

This self castration was an extreme case of celibacy

but it was celibacy none the less.

The ancient story of Attis unsexxing himself is today's story 

 of the religious abstaining from touching women.

Narcissus is another example among several of a beautiful

young man who spurned sex.

As such, his myth has much in common

with those of Adonis and Hippolytus.

All of these are dying and reborn divinities that become

the foundation of religions throughout the eons.

Narcissus dies to the flesh and

becomes the flower.

CHRISTIANS EMBRACE NARCISSUS

This includes even Jesus where Christians

coopted the daffodil  

(the Narcissus) as well as the lily as symbols

of death & Easter resurrection.

But what they do, they do with no knowledge that this 

is also a deep symbol of the homosexual trait originated

with the earliest myths.

To them it’s just a pretty flower.

 They really have no idea who or what Narcissus was.

He was someone totally obsessed with the beauty of  

the male form and his only salvation was to focus deeply on himself  

and be transformed into a flower of nature, into a spiritual being

as opposed to a physical being.

Here you will see a demonstration of that in an  

individuals description of church Easter services.

THE CROSS OF DAFFODILS

For Easter, St Peter's in Rome,  

had a cross of daffodils.

Following a discussion of Mel Gibson's

The Passion of the Christ

(David and Nick had been to see the film with a small group of friends 

appropriately enough on Good Friday)

and at Holy Communion,  

everyone was invited to pick up a daffodil and

add it to the cross of daffodils.

In actuality that cross is the Cross of Narcissus.

 Narcissus who spurned the female for

the beauty of the male form.

Who died to the physical and resurrected

in new form of the spirit.

He loved his own reflection ,

then turned into the flower baring his name,

ignoring the erotic desires of Echo all the while.

A BEAUTIFUL EXCHANGE BETWEEN

NARCISSUS AND ECHO

In another  part of the story there is an interesting exchange

between Narcissus and Echo I wanted to share with you.

Narcissus becomes so lonely in the woods and cry's out.

Whose here ?

Echo answers from the woods. 

Whose here ?

Echo answered with all

her heart in the same words,

and hastened to the spot, ready to

throw her arms about his neck.

But it was all in vain.

He left her, and she went
to hide herself in the recesses of the woods.

From that time forth she lived in

caves and among mountain cliffs.

Her form faded with grief, till at last all

her flesh shrank away.

Her bones were changed into rocks,

and there was nothing left of her

but her voice.

 With that she is still ready to

reply to any one who calls her,

provided you will understand that

Echo will have  the last word.

ECHO'S PRESENCE IN GREEK MYTH

Echo had a large presence apart from the best-remembered

tale of her downfall for loving Narcissus.

 But most revealing of her original nature is an ancient

Greek assumption that she was

Persephone's personal messenger

(as Hermes was the personal messenger of Zeus),

and flew upon her dark wings between

the living world & Thanatos

bringing perfect knowledge to

and from the underworld.

 In this we find again the real nature of Echo,

whose lips are veiled, for the secret knowledge cajoled

from her is incorruptible.

THE JEWISH BAT KOL

This Echo is, then, the same as

the Jewish Bat Kol, Daughter Voice,

 who brings news from God & repeats it verbatim

in her soft womanly voice directly into

the hearts & spirits of humanity.

 In times of need Bat Kol can be heard to

speak from out of a fiery light.

 Echo is also encountered in

 Vedic religion as the Goddess Devaduti

the Divine Messenger, feminine power of communication

without whom even the greatest of gods is mute.

From the lingering bits of a largely forgotten mythology,

it seems probable that Echo worship regarded Her as the

"spark" that dwells within each of us.

That which Narcissus never understood.

THE SPIRIT IS FEMININE

All the Greek words for Spirit or Soul are feminine words.

And  so in Greek myth the soul is often personified

as a nymph or goddess.

Psyche as lover of Eros being most famed of these.

Not coincidentally, in Semitic & Sanskrit languages too,

the words for Soul are invariably female names.

GNOSTIC SOUL WORSHIP

 The last great flourishing of Soul worship in

western religion was classical Gnosticism.

 Among Gnostics, a central idea was that Sophia

(the Mother-goddess Wisdom) spun out from herself,

without need of a consort or male.

She was  the whole of the life-force of the world,

diminishing herself to become infused into the material world,

the energizing power of all life.

Such belief remains current in India

among Kali worshippers.

So the diminished Echo is still really that earlier Creatrix trying

to call out to humanity, to Narcissus, striving to correct the

Error of Sophia, & liberate us from

the world of matter by calling us back

into the pre-created universe of light & unity.

But because she is fused to us,

we can never quite perceive her as anything but a reflection

of ourselves, an echo of our own voices, & we are undone

by our own vanity & remain snared in the material realm.

THE ANCIENT GAY INFLUENCE

Narcissus grew up incapable of relations with the opposite sex,

absorbed in his own beauty.

All such gods from Attis to Dionysus

have a homosexual history.

Narcissus was courted by Apollo, &

by the River-god Ameinius.

As it turned out, Narcissus not only rejected all women,

but was also incapable of relations with men,

& sent Ameinius a sword which for all intent & purpose meant

"Go kill yourself."

Ameinius did so; he committed suicide on the doorstep

of the house of Narcissus.

DEMETER FESTIVAL AND ECHO

And we do know a single defining moment about

the rituals for Echo at the Demeter Festival.

When Echo received prayers,

her worshippers would call blessings

into a deep niche which was

immediately beside a niche wherein

Demeter was enthroned, &

from out Echo's empty niche or cavern,

the blessings would be called back

three times to those who adored her.

These early stories provided the basis for the celibacy

concepts that flourish in so many religious groups.

But it transcends that to an actual frustration

 and degrading of women ala Narcissus.

Narcissus pushes Echo away and says, don’t touch me,

 I would rather die then touch you.

The Bible echo's (excuse the pun) his words

THE DEGRADING OF WOMEN

IN THE BIBLE

1 Corinthians 7: 1. 

Now concerning the things about which

you wrote to me:

It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

You have to keep in mind that when the

mother Goddess was in charge,

the male was nothing.

Just a sexless companion because

she needed no sexual partner.

Males were not even allowed to inherit anything.

There was a degrading of the male.

Now it is reversed in much of society socially,

and in religious institutions

both physically and spiritually.

WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT ?

But what is the reality here.

What is the true essence of all of this.

 The entire life operation is incapable

of operating properly

 because there is no equality.

There is no male female or

positive negative balance.

When it is missing in our electrical appliances

they will not work.

Obviously you see the results of it not working in

our social and spiritual worlds.

They don’t work.

Religion has never been able to separate

the physical and the spiritual.

The visible and the invisible.

To them it's all male.

 MAN IS LORD AND MASTER

By New Testament times,

a Jewish man was usually the

lord or master of only one wife at a time.

But the image of woman suffered from the stress that

postexilic priests placed on ritual purity,

which, to quote Leonie J. Archer, made women,

due to the blood of menstruation and childbirth,

"unclean for a large part of their lives.

" Hellenistic Jewish writers began expressing the

 same contempt for women that made the views of the

 Greeks on gender,

     in Giulia Sissa's words,

"distinctly unpalatable."

Thus the Jewish philosopher Philo (first century B.C.E.)

identifies man with mind and reason, and woman with

irrationality and the senses.

"A silent wife," says the apocryphal Sirach (second century B.C.E.),

 "is a gift from the Lord" (26:14).

The Jewish historian Josephus, a contemporary of Philo,

 puts it succinctly:

"Women are inferior to men in every way"

(Against Apion II:201).

GOD, THE PHYSICAL FATHER

When religion says we are created in

the image and likeness of God

they consider god is a man.

 A fatherly figure with a long beard.

They have never been able to understand

that to mean that God is light.

Invisible electro magnetism, and so are we.

Therefore we are created in the image and likeness of God

in the invisible sub atomic world of mind consciousness.

But instead, social institutions

have taken the original myths

and totally misunderstood them,

and applied physical,

rather then spiritual aspects to the stories.

And for thousands of years the

living beings of the earth

have taken part in foolish bodily concerns

that are totally irrelevant

 in the true essence of God and spirit

MALE AND FEMALE IN

ANCIENT WRITINGS MEANS

BODY AND SPIRIT

The mythologies of the male and female,

whether it be Adonis or Narcissus,

and Echo of Persophene or

Athena and Apollo speaks of interaction

of mind and emotions, body and spirit.

The two are separate entities and

must not intercourse

with one another for life to be lived as

it was cosmically created.

There is the higher mind which is the

right hemisphere or God part.

At one time that was symbolized as female, the Goddess.

 Now it is symbolized as male, God.

The higher mind is where we dwell during meditation.

We are to take no thought, to separate

from the thoughts of the lower.

In other words,

we are to save ourselves for the bride of the right side.

We intercourse with her in meditation.

Since the times of the Goddess,

the higher was female and  the lower

 was male.

Thus the physical left hemisphere

of the brain was male and

the right hemisphere which is

the spiritual side was female.

Whichever symbol is used to represent it,

it is the lower physical mind which becomes

obsessed with physical things.

That is Narcissus.

In order to overcome, the fear, the hate,

the lust, etc. of the lower mind,

one must meditate by

concentrating on ones self.

Totally separating from the physical or lower mind.

The male is avoiding the female,

or the female is avoiding the male.

It depends on which

culture or God or Goddess

perception is being used.

One thing for sure the lower mind, left hemisphere,

is always going to be the non God part.

It is also referred to as the carnal mind

and there is an excellent

description of it in the Bible as

it relates to our study here.

THE BIBLE ON THE LOWER MIND

Romans 8:7. 

Because the carnal mind is an

enemy against God:

for it is not subject to the law of God,

neither indeed can it be.

The Bible did not incorporate the meaning

of left male and right female

but simply refers to the

carnal mind (left side) as being

outside of the law of God.

Now religious people will say,

oh no, women are respected

as mothers and are part of the family,

but that is not true at all.

Women in most institutions of

religion and government

and business are relegated to

2^nd class levels whether

it be in church, in job pay,

in business promotions.

So you may say that one day it will change back

and the Goddess

will be in charge and the man will be 2^nd class.

You will have the same problem.

You will have the lack of balance.

There is an absolute necessity for the woman and the man,

the female and the male to be partners.

To be equal in all aspects of life for life to exist as was

 ordained by God or Goddess.

DARK AGES RELIGION NEVER UNDERSTANDS

The overall problem is the lack of understanding of the

ancient myths by the ignorant ones of the dark ages

from whence came organized religion.

They simply read everything literally and thus attributed

the same power to the physical which is meat and bone,

as they do to the invisible spiritual which is

cosmic photon power of conscious mind.

You can see to this very day that the ability of the

male and female to coexist other then for

the purposes of sex is very weak.

Fully 50% of the marriages that take place break up.

And it is Christianity that appeals for married people

to stay together and keep the family together,

yet it is their very power that has worked throughout

the ages to minimize the importance and stature of women.

RELIGION IS NARCISSTIC

It is obsessed with the physical.

They cannot deal with gays,

they cannot deal with sex.

They can only deal with themselves

as objects of perfection.

Their need is to look deeply within themselves

until they change into that which is the true flower of spirit.

Where we have come  in our evolution to balance male female,

positive negative, yin yang.

 Nowhere.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO CORRECT THE COURSE ?

 It will take power to restructure the electrical properties of

positive and negative, yin and yang and

male and female.

It will take electrical power to actually change

the electrical make up of the human brain mind

to increase the female which because of the power

of the physical has decreased it.

It will take this.

The Seventh Angel, Eta Carina

THE HELIX NEBULA AKA THE DNA NEBULA

This great change is what is spoken of

even in the Book of Revelation

which has spawned the double helix nebula

as the Book of Life.

REVELATION OF THE WOMAN

It speaks in Revelation of the woman

Revelation 12:1. 

And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;

a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet,

and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

 5.  And she brought forth a man child,

who was to rule all nations

with a rod of iron:

and her child was caught up unto God,

and to his throne.

Now in this case the mythical element shifts.

The woman is the spirit.

The man is the physical mind rejuvenated

or reborn of the spirit.

The carnal mind which is enemy to God

is changed by the spirit

or the woman who gives birth within us to the new

Christ mind which replaces the carnal mind.

The result is that one lives in the physical element ,

and enjoys all that it has,

but is ruled and guided by

the non physical element,

so that there is the end of the war,

and violence, and hate,

that rules so much of the world

and has done so for eons.

The degrading of women in so many cultures of the world

including this one, is a sign of a much deeper human problem. 

The degrading of ones own self by connecting almost

totally to the physical or male element and

neglecting the invisible interior female element.

No matter what people do, no matter how hard they pray,

no matter how often they go to church,

until they come to grips with the female within all of them

they will never find the happiness or the heaven they seek.

No matter how hard you try to start your car,

no matter how many wonderful technicians assist you,

until the female is connected equally

with the male that car will not start.

No matter how many switches you switch to turn

the lights on in your house,

no matter how many electricians you call ,

until the female is connected with the male

you will live in total darkness.

That is what has happened to the world.

The light has gone out.